@poetgrant@fosstodon.org systemd exists because what came before it was even more terrible in many ways, despite the propaganda, consolekit was unmaintained, each package had their own spaghetti shell script instead of a uniform service file etc.

systemd's far from perfect, but looking at sysvinit with rose tinted glasses doesn't help either.

@MatejLach @poetgrant OpenRC? Runit? S6? Nobody is arguing that we should go back to sysvinit...

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@kungtotte @poetgrant@fosstodon.org None of these solve the problems I have with sysvinit, they're part of the same philosophy.

Plus, none of these are willing to maintain their own replacement for consolekit etc. They're not in the same league as systemd.

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